How Do You Register An Enredgistered Gun In Illinois

by BBJ » 01 May 2019, 12:55 pm

Hey Shrap,

It's not a crime to find a firearm. It happens with some frequency in the circumstance you accept outlined, someone finds someone's old burglarize that'due south been locked in the cranium for 50 years.

It is to knowingly hang onto an unregistered one though.

Have it to a dealer ASAP (today). They will transport the details to FAR and become information technology registered on their books.

You lot do your PTA and all the normal procedure, and once it's skillful to go they transfer information technology to your proper name like a normal transfer.

Or if you don't desire it they volition sell or dispose of it.

If you accept information technology to the Police I believe your only option is to unconditionally surrender it.

Take information technology to your dealer.

past Chappo » 01 May 2019, two:06 pm

Mate I'1000 pretty certain your only selection in NSW is to surrender it to the police.

You lot could once accept it to a dealer and have information technology registered under your license or use an amnesty to practise the aforementioned simply the laws have changed. They could change again but I call back that's where you stand up at the moment.

Take a talk with your dealer and let us know what they say.

by Member-Deleted » 01 May 2019, 3:11 pm

Chiliad'day Shrapnel mate i'1000 in QLD not to sure of your states laws just anyhow I found myself in a similar situation a bloke found an old 303 in his shed after being left it all in a will so he institute this burglarize it was unregistered he asked me if I wanted it so I took it to my local police and told them what I was going to do with it so I was pointed in the direction of the gun shop they washed a notification of the rifle I think it's just a check to see if it was stolen so they fix a PTA for that rifle they proceed the rifle until your licence or addition to your licence arrives you lot take that in and collect your newly acquired rifle information technology was very simple only a expect for paper work hope this tin can help

by GojiraSteve » 01 May 2019, three:35 pm

Chappo wrote:Mate I'm pretty sure your only selection in NSW is to surrender it to the constabulary.

You could once take information technology to a dealer and take information technology registered under your license or use an amnesty to practice the same simply the laws have changed.
They could change again just I think that'due south where you stand up at the moment.

Have a talk with your dealer and let us know what they say.

Tin anyone else corroborate this? Seems at odds with the published info from the registry...

https://www.law.nsw.gov.au/__data/as ... ration.pdf

(second page, middle column, quaternary paragraph)

What if I am in possession of an
unregistered firearm?
If you lot are in possession of an
unregistered firearm you MUST
immediately:
* Surrender the firearm to NSW Constabulary
or
* Take it to a licensed Firearms Dealer
who will accommodate for the registration
of the firearm.
The Firearms Dealer will exist required to
retain possession of the firearm until
the person is able to produce a electric current
firearms licence and issued Permit to
Learn, at which time the dealer will
complete the 'Discover of Buy' and
ship this to the Firearms Registry

past Sergeant Hartman » 01 May 2019, 3:l pm

And that'south is why you shouldn't inquire legal questions on online forums. Plus every country normally had dissimilar processes.

Best is band upwards a local dealer or your state police firearm registry as been mentioned and just all the question from them

by No1_49er » 01 May 2019, 4:08 pm

GojiraSteve wrote:

Chappo wrote:Mate I'm pretty certain your but option in NSW is to surrender it to the police.
You could one time take information technology to a dealer and have it registered under your license or use an amnesty to do the same but the laws have changed.
They could change once more only I call up that's where you stand up at the moment.
Have a talk with your dealer and allow us know what they say.

Tin anyone else corroborate this? Seems at odds with the published info from the registry ...

https://world wide web.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/equally ... ration.pdf

(2nd folio, heart column, 4th paragraph)

What if I am in possession of an unregistered firearm?
If yous are in possession of an unregistered firearm you MUST immediately:
* Surrender the firearm to NSW Police force
or
* Accept it to a licensed Firearms Dealer who volition adapt for the registration of the firearm.
The Firearms Dealer will be required to retain possession of the firearm until the person is able to produce a electric current firearms licence and issued Permit to
Acquire, at which time the dealer will complete the 'Notice of Purchase' and send this to the Firearms Registry

Information technology appears to be that Chappo is relying on some old memory cells. :lol:

I don't see any need for corroboration.

Y'all can either surrender it :thumbsdown: , OR, if you want is equally a keeper, do exactly as they say. Take it to your dealer who will brand it lawful by including it in the NSW Registry, and you apply for your PTA :thumbsup:

Easy, either mode

past No1_49er » 01 May 2019, 4:12 pm

Ziad wrote:And that'southward is why you shouldn't ask legal questions on online forums. Plus every country unremarkably had different processes.

Best is ring up a local dealer or your country police firearm registry as been mentioned and just all the question from them

The text in the quote above is taken directly from the NSW document, and OP is asking a NSW question.

I would retrieve that phoning registry will provide a reiteration of said document.

It is what it is.

by VICHunter » 01 May 2019, 4:45 pm

GojiraSteve wrote:Tin can anyone else corroborate this? Seems at odds with the published info from the registry...

No offence to Chappo, but why are y'all seeking to confirm his give-and-take is right over what's published by Firearms Registry?

Seems like looking for a problem where at that place isn't one, if you enquire me.

FAR says take it to a dealer and go it registered. So OP, accept information technology to a dealer and get it registered.

Easy :drinks:

by GojiraSteve » 01 May 2019, iv:45 pm

No1_49er wrote:

Ziad wrote:And that's is why you lot shouldn't ask legal questions on online forums. Plus every state normally had dissimilar processes.

Best is ring upward a local dealer or your state police firearm registry equally been mentioned and but all the question from them

The text in the quote above is taken directly from the NSW document, and OP is asking a NSW question.
I would think that phoning registry will provide a reiteration of said document.
It is what it is.

I dunno 49er. On the you-will-come-unstuck scale I reckon relying on the FAR's website existence up to date is but a close second to relying on legal communication provided on cyberspace forums.

I'd be talking to my LGS. He's the only one in the equation who'southward livelihood is dependent on getting the answer right.

by pomemax » 01 May 2019, 4:50 pm

Why do people come on a forum and ask questions like this as their offset post non Hi or anything .If he /she has a licence he should know this information or how to notice out the right information .You lot watch another story in the papers about finding some old firearms

by VICHunter » 01 May 2019, 5:28 pm

pomemax wrote:Why do people come on a forum and ask questions like this as their commencement post not Hi or anything .If he /she has a licence he should know this information or how to find out the right information .

Why would he know this? They don't make y'all memorize the entire Firearms Deed in your license safety course.

He's taken reasonable steps to find the right information. He asked on a reputable Australian firearms forum, and he got provided an reply quoted from a FAR document. All perfectly reasonable.

What was the point of your post exactly? Just to have a bitch near someone?

If all you lot've got to add together is a harsh criticism of someone peradventure keep it to yourself in future.

past Sergeant Hartman » 01 May 2019, five:39 pm

Love the interwebs. Someone gives a decent and correct suggestion, Subsequently two completely different answers from members and we become people going fully sick bro.

No1 mate I read his start post again, actually I must be going blind and then I read it twice (after reading it originally) where does he say he is from NSW. I am viewing it on a mobile so maybe I missed something. Can you lot please tell me. Or maybe y'all tin read the question correctly earlier going off your handle.

past mickb » 01 May 2019, 5:53 pm

Always surprising folks upset why someone would ask such questions lol. It's a forum after all an area of request and discussing points and opinions. If it was merely for referencing information technology would be a library.

First, proficient question op. Second, it seems well answered. I recollect regardless of state the law have taken a viewpoint that it is easier for them, the owner and public rubber they don't make information technology too hard for people to bring things in the books legitimately.

One matter the registries will practice once either the police or the dealer applies to register the firearm is background check the guns seriel numbers for whatever links to theft or criminal offence. In the case it was an one-time gun and y'all are reasonably sure he was not a gangster in the day you will exist okay.

Still if yous have simply found a gun randomly or perhaps your mate gave information technology to you 10 years ago etc and you are using the deceased estate alibi be aware if it is hot you may have to answer some questions.

by Shrapnel 118 » 01 May 2019, 6:04 pm

BBJ, Chappoy, GojiraSteve, Ziad, No1_49er, VICHunter wrote:...

I chosen a couple dealers effectually NSW and both said it can not exist registered without a amnesty being in action. So I have ii primary sources of data, i beingness the constabulary websites PDFs which are dated September 2008 and the other being NSW Gun Dealers, that contradict each other then I am still at a loss.

VICHunter wrote:Why would he know this? They don't make you memorize the entire Firearms Human action in your license safety course.

He's taken reasonable steps to find the right data. He asked on a reputable Australian firearms forum, and he got provided an answer quoted from a FAR document. All perfectly reasonable.

What was the indicate of your post exactly? Simply to accept a bowwow about someone?

If all yous've got to add is a harsh criticism of someone perchance keep it to yourself in future.

Thanks for the backup.

Ziad wrote:Love the interwebs. Someone gives a decent and correct suggestion, Afterward two completely dissimilar answers from members and we get people going fully ill bro.

No1 mate I read his outset post again, really I must be going blind so I read it twice (afterwards reading information technology originally) where does he say he is from NSW. I am viewing it on a mobile so maybe I missed something. Tin can you please tell me. Or maybe you can read the question correctly earlier going off your handle.

On the PC version of the website it says the state y'all are in nether each persons name.

mickb wrote:Always surprising folks upset why someone would ask such questions lol. It's a forum later on all an area of asking and discussing points and opinions. If information technology was just for referencing it would be a library.

First, adept question op. Second, it seems well answered. I think regardless of state the police accept taken a viewpoint that it is easier for them, the possessor and public safety they don't brand it too hard for people to bring things in the books legitimately.

One affair the registries will practise once either the police force or the dealer applies to register the firearm is background cheque the guns seriel numbers for any links to theft or crime. In the instance it was an onetime gun and you are reasonably sure he was not a gangster in the solar day you lot volition be okay.

However if y'all have just plant a gun randomly or maybe your mate gave information technology to you 10 years ago etc and you are using the deceased manor excuse be enlightened if it is hot you may take to reply some questions.

Cheers for your response, it was legitimacy found on a deceased family unit members manor. It should not accept any criminal history attached to it.

by Chappo » 01 May 2019, 6:fourteen pm

I got my info from ii lgs in the by week every bit I recently had the same question as the op.

Given their advice I still remember it is impossible at the moment to have it registered in NSW but laws do change and another amnesty is possible.

Maybe the police cops need to update their website?

by GQshayne » 01 May 2019, half-dozen:18 pm

G'twenty-four hours Shrapnel mate i'm in QLD non to certain of your states laws but anyway I establish myself in a similar state of affairs a bloke plant an old 303 in his shed after beingness left it all in a will so he found this rifle it was unregistered he asked me if I wanted it so I took it to my local law and told them what I was going to do with it so I was pointed in the direction of the gun shop they done a notification of the rifle I think it's just a check to see if it was stolen so they set up a PTA for that burglarize they keep the rifle until your licence or add-on to your licence arrives you accept that in and collect your newly acquired rifle it was very simple only a wait for paper work hope this can assistance

That is handy to know. I thought we had to wait for an immunity to do this in Qld. How recently did you do this may I ask?

by Chappo » 01 May 2019, half dozen:19 pm

Furthermore one of the lgs owners told me that if they suspected anyone of being in possession of an unlicensed firearm then they had to report information technology to the police.

by Shrapnel 118 » 01 May 2019, 6:21 pm

I too called a QLD firearm dealer today to see what its like in Queensland and he said you merely just have to just bring it in and go a PTA.

past pomemax » 01 May 2019, half dozen:30 pm

What if the firearms are unregistered?
Unregistered firearms, must exist immediately surrendered to police. Information technology is an offence to
supply, acquire, possess or apply an unregistered firearm - department 36(ane) of the Act.
Notwithstanding, section 60 of the Act provides for an exemption to prosecution for the
offence of unauthorised possession of a firearm, provided the firearm is immediately
surrendered to constabulary.
Following surrender of the firearms to police force, an application may be made to the
courtroom to allow you, as a licensee, to register those firearms to your licence.
If the courtroom allows registration of the firearms, you lot will need to make application for a
PTA for each firearm.
Licence and let holders can apply for a PTA a firearm online at the Service NSW
website (

http://www.service.nsw.gov.au

). A fee of $30 is required for each PTA application
(one application per firearm). Consideration of a fee waiver may be given if proof of
inheritance is provided. Approving for a fee waiver is adamant by the General
Manager, Firearms Registry.
When your PTA has been issued, you volition need to arrange for a NSW firearms dealer
to take possession of the firearm from constabulary to register the firearm. You then take
your issued PTA to that dealer who will authorise the transfer of registration
transaction and ship the required data to the Firearms Registry.
A registration document will be posted to yous after all the necessary paperwork has
been received and candy past the Firearms Registry.
What if I am the executor, administrator and/or beneficiary of a deceased
estate and I alive interstate?
Contact the Firearms Registry on 02 6670 8590 for farther information
it take minutes to observe
This is all for the Deceased estate if the person responsible for the estate just handed you a firearm or y'all are not the e executor or administrator of the estate or if they passed abroad more 6 months ago.
Might cause you a few issues if you lot but walk into a police station with it crusade you technically do not have a reason to have said firearm. Simply you lot may find its registered .

by Member-Deleted » 01 May 2019, six:52 pm

CQshayne mate it was nigh 18mths or so agone or 2yrs ago at most I actually spoke to on this forum about information technology at the fourth dimension about getting a 303 for $1 the oridinal possessor passed away leaving his subcontract to his son who and then gave information technology to his son who found the erstwhile rifle and the residual is history as I said the gun shop done a cheque and I presume it was relayed back to the law to run into if it was stolen or used in whatever thefts or murders I wasn't allowed to take the rifle from the GS until all the newspaper work and licence addition was verified which took near 3-4weeks then I collected it from the GS after showing them my licence and ok'd paper piece of work pretty uncomplicated really I can't meet why they'd brand it hard for someone to accept an unregistered gun in and either register it in their name or only hand it in only getting defenseless with one is a unlike matter we don't seem to have all that tightness around guns up here only nosotros exercise have to do things open and lawful if they detect whatsoever BS going on and so they'll come up down on y'all like a ton of bricks and make it very hard for you lot and then but it would be your ain fault for trying to pull the wool over their eyes Now like I said I explained myself clearly to them and where the rifle came from and what I wanted and they were very helpful had I been dodgy I would have been sorted out quiet quickly no fear of that

by GojiraSteve » 01 May 2019, 8:23 pm

pomemax wrote:Following give up of the firearms to constabulary, an application may be fabricated to the
courtroom to allow you, as a licensee, to register those firearms to your licence.
If the courtroom allows registration of the firearms, you will need to make application for a
PTA for each firearm.
Licence and permit holders can use for a PTA a firearm online at the Service NSW
website (

http://www.service.nsw.gov.au

). A fee of $30 is required for each PTA awarding
(one awarding per firearm). Consideration of a fee waiver may be given if proof of
inheritance is provided. Approval for a fee waiver is determined by the Full general
Manager, Firearms Registry.
When your PTA has been issued, y'all will need to arrange for a NSW firearms dealer
to take possession of the firearm from constabulary to register

Jesus f***ing Christ! It'southward like they Want people to ship said firearm across the QLD edge, drib it at a gun shop in that location, and arrange an interstate transfer through their LGS dorsum habitation...
#thisisnotlegaladvice

past Chappo » 01 May 2019, eight:53 pm

Yep it strikes me equally odd that yous now (seemingly) tin't register anything unregistered in nsw. Surely it's in anybody's best interests to remove illegal firearms from existence.

Yeah I know you still can give up them but who wants to practice that?

People are more likely to either hide them in the promise that one twenty-four hour period they can register them or like gorjirasteve said endeavour to become around information technology by going interstate.

by Sergeant Hartman » 01 May 2019, 9:17 pm

Sorry no1. As I said I am on mobile and state doesn't come up.

by Chappo » 01 May 2019, 9:21 pm

Hey Ziad. I'm on mobile likewise and on my phone the land does come up if you turn the phone on it'southward side.

past on_one_wheel » 01 May 2019, ix:34 pm

It'southward in the police force best interest to accept people annals unregistered firearms.

They know total well if they brand it difficult so they'll exist more "greyness market" firearms our at that place waiting to fall into the wrong hands.

I know that in SA the best fashion to legalize an unregistered firearm is to have information technology to a firearms dealer. Just as previously stated earlier here.

Doing information technology asap is very of import. I wouldn't want to be defenseless with it before y'all get the gamble.

by duncan61 » 01 May 2019, 10:08 pm

Very confident that W.A. has had an immunity for a long fourth dimension.If you notice an one-time 303 y'all can get licensed for it.Now I am into target shooting I would claim its for service rifle

by No1_49er » 01 May 2019, 10:18 pm

Ziad wrote:Deplorable no1. As I said I am on mobile and state doesn't come up.

No prob'

by zhuk » 01 May 2019, ten:24 pm

Wouldn't surprise me Chappo. I did it with my deceased uncle'south ancient air burglarize because he wanted me to have it (no i of his immediate family was licensed)

But then once again, an amnesty happened to be in force at the fourth dimension..so what the dealers are proverb is probably right. At that place has been at to the lowest degree a couple of legislative overhauls since 2008 and so wouldn't surprise me either if the online info is out of date.

by BBJ » 01 May 2019, 10:25 pm

Impress out the doc linked from the NSW Police site that says y'all tin take it to a dealer (just to encompass your bases on that 1/m chance yous got pulled over on your way in that location) and accept information technology to a dealer ASAP.

Washed.

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